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'I realized that he wasn't saying this out of hate, he was saying this out of fear.' Since, the family has strengthened its relationship. 'It really, really hurt to hear those words,' Ramzi said. When Ramzi told him what he wanted to hear, his father became quiet and said 'why don't you just put a bullet in my head.' Ramzi's sister, who is also queer and had come out before, was also present. His father ended up forcing the coming out, having already suspected, in an extremely intense scene. The father-of-five has been married twice and vehemently denies he is gay. When he came to the realization that wasn't his future, he told his mother who was very supportive. Son, Kyle, who is now estranged from him, says he thinks his father is lying. 'I was so scared of what it actually meant to call yourself gay so even the first man I dated, I still thought that afterwards I was going to eventually meet a girl and get married because that's what men did,' he said. It took until age 21, even after dating someone for the coming out to occur. 'I grew up in an Armenian-American community and I grew up in a divorced family so I feel like I had to come out twice,' he said. Ramzi's story was more complex than some.

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